Roster projection, fourth guess

Starting tomorrow, I get my annual Spring Training breather, so you won’t hear anything from me till Tuesday (say, that sounds like a good name for a band!). Hooray for Mrs. Dude coming south!

Here’s my latest guess for the roster:

Starting pitchers (5)
Adam Wainwright
Joel Pineiro
Braden Looper
Anthony Reyes
Todd Wellemeyer

Relief pitchers (7)
Jason Isringhausen
Russ Springer
Ryan Franklin
Brad Thompson
Kyle McClellan (this was by far the single hardest spot to call)
Randy Flores
Ron Villone

Catchers (2)
Yadier Molina
Jason LaRue

Infielders (6)
Albert Pujols
Adam Kennedy
Cesar Izturis
Troy Glaus
Aaron Miles
Brendan Ryan

Outfielders (5)
Rick Ankiel
Chris Duncan
Ryan Ludwick
Skip Schumaker
Juan Gonzalez

Stock rising: Joe Mather, McClellan, Schumaker, Villone, Ryan
Stock falling:
Kennedy, Reyes, Gonzalez

Last names on: McClellan, Ryan, Gonzalez
First names off:
Mike Parisi, Kelvin Jimenez, Mather, Colby Rasmus



Dude, there already was a band named Tuesday.

Matthew, a thing that has been bugging me about this roster ever since you started posting it, and which worsened with the unfortunate departure of Spiezio, is the overabundance of not-too-versatile outfielders. Speez was capable of playing infield, outfield, emergency catcher. None of these outfielders seem able to do that, except for filling at first base.

One almost inclines to wish that the 25th man (instead of Gonzalez) was an infielder first and outfielder second, or at least an outfielder who could step up and play something else — and not first base — in an emergency. Is there an obvious candidate with these skills that I’m missing?


Unfortunately, I agree with your roster. If I could pick, I would swap Wellemeyer and Brad Thompson and keep Brian Barton over Juan-gone.

And, by the way, I enjoyed the Bob Dylan reference in your article on today’s game.

I think Barton is going to make it in place of Gonzalez actually. Just a gut feeling of mine.

I think Schumaker is fairly versatile in that he can play all 3 OF positions and so can Ankiel.

With Ryan and Miles on the roster, we have backups for each IF position really, so we don’t need to worry to be without a single swiss army knife type of player like Spiezio was.

I think if we keep Juan Gone over Barton, it’s proof that this franchise is doomed for a few years.

I agree with your roster, except one thing: I think Barton will make the big league roster. He has played well (with a .381 batting average and a .667 slugging percentage), behind only Schumaker and Ankiel in hits, and with his Rule 5 status, I figured that made him a top candidate to make the team. I’m not sure who would go then, but I would estimate, probably Ludwick, but I really think Barton has played his way on the team.

I would prefer to see Barton make the squad than Gonzalez.
Barton has more speed, youth and versatility and is probably better defensively and is RH.

Juan will be a one year player, if he doesn’t get hurt first.

I certainly hope the Cardinals brass has the same sense as the readers of this blog when it comes to evaluating Barton over Juan Gonzalez. Last year, fresh off a World Championship, I think we would have been pleased with Juan’s performance in spring training and excited about the prospect of having him around. This year, it seems we’re all expecting the worst and hoping for the best. Barton has a much higher upside over the long run. I vote to keep Barton. I only wish my vote mattered.

I have to agree with everyone else on Barton over Gonzalez. Even if Gonzalez can provided more pop in the lineup this year, Barton has two things the Cards really need: Youth and Speed. The most you are going to get out of Gonzalez is 2 years. He may have been great in his prime, but he is well past that and I think it would be well advised to hold on to a young player like Barton who shows a lot of potential. Barton has stepped up and produced strong numbers this spring and I think he deserves to make the roster. His numbers are better than Juan’s in most places and he offers a much stronger upside than Gonzalez.

With Barton being a rule 5 draftee, if he doesn’t make the roster some smaller team like Kansas City or Tampa Bay will snatch him from the Cards very quickly.


correct me if I am wrong, but if Barton does not make the 25 man roster don’t the Cards
have to offer him back to Cleveland for $25,000?

I do not think he is a free agent able to go anywhere or be grabbed by any team.

I think that is true…the way I understand it, if Barton doesn’t make the team, the Indians can claim him from them for half the cost. However, I don’t know what the restrictions are for them once they get him – do THEY have to keep him on the Big League roster for the full season? – and I don’t know what happens if Cleveland doesn’t want him – does he remain with St. Louis with no strings attached or does he become a free agent?

To clarify the Rule 5 questions, the way I understand it (Matthew please correct me if I am wrong) is that if a Rule 5 draftee doesn’t make the roster, he must be waived by the team. If he clears waivers than he must be offered back to the original team for $25,000. However as kbaseball said I believe he can be claimed by another team off waivers. If he is standard waiver rules apply. If anyone knows better please correct me.

I doubt that Barton would clear waivers if indeed he has to go that route. Too good a talent and some low budget team will grab him.
Hopefully Matthew can clarify the rule.

I just hope we don’t have to worry about this rule 5 draft rule and they put him on the 25-man roster because he has impressed me so far! And as far as Juan having pop and him not… I believe he has some pop in his bat too…

If Juan Gonzalez makes the roster at Brian Barton’s expense, I will become a Rockies fan and be done with this team until they get someone that can evaluate players.

why is Kennedy’s stock falling? I keep hoping sanity will happen with this team and that Izturis doesn’t make the roster no matter what we are paying him, he hasn’t been a legitimate major leaguer ever. Ryan should be starting short, kennedy second, and miles should get about 200 plate appearances as a sub. And Izturis should be ruining someone elses roster.

I heard recently that Skip Schumaker use to be an infielder. If this is the case then why isn’t he working out a second base were the Cardinals could use him instead of a crowded outfield. He could then be used as our leadoff hitter and second basebmen. At this point with what we have in the middle infield and with no leadoff hitter I have to ask why not?

I am more concerned with the pitching staff than I am with every day position players (though I would like to see Brendan Ryan get the starting SS job over Izturis). If Carpenter, Mulder, and Clement were all healthy, the team could contend for the division. Otherwise, with Looper and Reyes, they have two guys who do not have the talent to be starters. Looper is strictly a relief pitcher and Reyes is a minor leaguer. In addition, the dearth of left-handers on the staff is a serious detriment.

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